tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post4599730553505765764..comments2024-02-17T16:48:10.855+01:00Comments on Marmota's Dress Diaries: Politics of fashion: A broad summary on the Czech national costume of 1848Hana - Marmotahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-92058814269435938342018-02-04T01:38:00.314+01:002018-02-04T01:38:00.314+01:00Okay, so this requires a long explanation. Even th...Okay, so this requires a long explanation. Even though you're hiding behind an anonymous comment, and I think you don't care one bit what this post is actually about. If you were, you would probably notice I only used the term once in the post itself, and that only in a modern context (concerning my own purchase at the time of writing, of material produced after 1993). The other uses on this site are a tag and a sub-page derived from that tag; and that tag was born long before Czechia was officially internationally accepted and also, more importantly, long before I even became aware that was a possible term in English in the first place. And because at the beginning of the tag's usage it mostly involved places around the country, now, so the term worked just fine. Tags are hard to change retroactively. And as an umbrella tag for an international readership, the tag still works here, because this post concerns the lesser known history of the area now in the state with this name. That's what the tag is for: teaching an international readership about things beyond the state name and the usual connotations that spring to mind.<br /><br />And that readership is the main reason I'm explaining and not just deleting your anonymous comment for the trolling it basically is.<br /><br />Some time ago, I became aware there's a sort of online campaign for the use of "Czechia" going on, and it often takes this form: a sort of private crusade in comments at people's content that focuses on the use of "Czech Republic" - over the relevant rest of the content. (Especially eggregious as the usage often happened simply - like here - because that was the internationally accepted term in English; and sometimes also, I think, because a lot of people abroad still tend to think of us as Czechoslovakia, decades after 1993...) <br />As I became aware of the campaign, I also noticed the method and became briefly unsympathetic to the cause because of it. I've warmed up to the word since. I use it now when I can, in appropriate contexts (in particular historical ones, because it indeed is helpful for that!).<br />But the blindsided focus on this one issue over context that this anonymous comment displays reminds me all too vividly why I originally hated that cause. :-(Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-89899484784121583042018-02-03T23:51:21.838+01:002018-02-03T23:51:21.838+01:00Czechia, please..... what do have in common old fo...Czechia, please..... what do have in common old folk costumes and old fashion styles in common with "republic"? Simply Czechia, it is universal and timeless name. Czech Rep.is political name of the state, which has existed only since 1993.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-38333975634317041952014-03-26T08:01:58.850+01:002014-03-26T08:01:58.850+01:00I think the versions worn around here were usually...I think the versions worn around here were usually established in the 19th century, depending on the area (rich agricultural areas usually have newer and much richer costumes). With, of course, elements from the earlier eras.<br />And thank you for the insight on the situation in Nepal. :-)Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-14920850902529674492014-03-26T06:01:16.960+01:002014-03-26T06:01:16.960+01:00Very interesting. I've been curious about &quo...Very interesting. I've been curious about "traditional" European clothing. Of course presumably fashions changed in villages, too, so there's no one "time" that's the most authentic, but I've wondered what era the traditional clothing tends to reflect as a rule. Mostly I've figured it was roughly 17th/18th c, with some 19th c additions. But I had no idea there was a whole movement to establish a "national dress" when nation-building was going on. Here in Nepal, FWIW, there's a national dress for men which is based on what's still worn by older men in villages, like my FIL, but which is paired with a Western suitcoat as formal dress for bureaucrats and parliamentarians. Interestingly, there's no "national dress" per se for women. A woman parliamentarian would wear a sari, but I bet there'd be no success in getting women to wear older-style or village-style sari outfits as a national dress! (There's a particular style that's still worn in villages, and is also altered for "cultural programs" and dance shows, but you wouldn't really catch urban women in it.)Monsoon Rose https://www.blogger.com/profile/00999328889578835210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-11355314201818990252014-03-24T14:45:24.253+01:002014-03-24T14:45:24.253+01:00Dá se z toho udělat PDF - je veliké, ale dá se vyt...Dá se z toho udělat PDF - je veliké, ale dá se vytisknout jako "plakát" na 100%. Akorát to potom má tu nevýhodu, že si ho Adobe Reader automaticky centruje, takže mi tam vzniká spousta volného prostoru kolem... Ještě jsem nepřišla na to, jak udělat rozstránkované PDF bez nějakých profesionálních programů, tak akorát dělám ty tetrisoidní pokusy v Inkscape, aby to zabíralo co nejmíň prostoru. Stáhla jsem to myslím na 20 stránek. Dá se to tisknout s ořezovýni značkami, takovými těmi křížky v rozích, takže výsledek není o moc jiný než PDF střihy na tisknutí doma, akorát si člověk musí ty okraje dorýsovat.Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-14799874544112658132014-03-24T14:11:22.904+01:002014-03-24T14:11:22.904+01:00udělejme sewalong! :) ten strih z toho programu le...udělejme sewalong! :) ten strih z toho programu leze v jakem formatu? da se to nejak vytisknout klasicky doma, nebo je treba nejaky profi stroj?P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13476967095545483417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-52766468027897890282014-03-24T12:34:10.738+01:002014-03-24T12:34:10.738+01:00Šel. :-) Já si s tím dokonce hrála a zkoušela to p...Šel. :-) Já si s tím dokonce hrála a zkoušela to převádět do velikostí podle Burdy (ale s původními proporcemi a bez záruky, že to pasuje k sobě a opravdu sedí, protože je to jen hrubě procentuálně zvětšené a ještě jsem to ani nezkoušela na sobě...) Bylo by bezva, kdyby nás bylo víc, takový Sewalong. :-) Je to fakt krásný kabátek, některé dámy z HSF se taky hned nadchly (proto jsem si s tím tak hrála).Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-20770059401275369722014-03-24T11:55:34.147+01:002014-03-24T11:55:34.147+01:00Výborný text, díky za něj. Teď mám chuť se taky do...Výborný text, díky za něj. Teď mám chuť se taky do kacabajky pustit, ten zvětšený střih by nešel nějak nasdílet? :)P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13476967095545483417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-50513438669753273432014-03-24T08:08:44.975+01:002014-03-24T08:08:44.975+01:00Well, I'm really sorry, but I don't think ...Well, I'm really sorry, but I don't think I can - I mean, I think there are many people out there who can do a better job of telling about TGM than me, including internet sites... This particular post was written after several years of occasional pondering the issue and reading books and so on; I hope that gives you an idea of how much work such "telling more" involves in this case. I do not know how much "more" you want to hear about TGM and how much you already know; I'm not a historian, so what I could tell you would most probably be things you could find out by yourself anyway.<br />I'm glad you like my blog, though. :-) Hopefully, it will still give you some insights into things Czech, those I can safely provide.Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-53402366551451882082014-03-24T02:28:21.784+01:002014-03-24T02:28:21.784+01:00I love your blog! Can you tell me more about T. G...I love your blog! Can you tell me more about T. G. Masaryk? Thank you! I am very interested in Czech history!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-67480316688787034792014-03-23T16:28:17.746+01:002014-03-23T16:28:17.746+01:00Space, yes! space, ahhhSpace, yes! space, ahhhLisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12503930255842185609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-34643022386896209052014-03-23T09:31:24.950+01:002014-03-23T09:31:24.950+01:00Díky moc, a gratuluju k prokousání! Ve zkratce je ...Díky moc, a gratuluju k prokousání! Ve zkratce je to přesně tak. :-)<br />Ten druhý trend... kdo ví. Zas se v důsledku toho, co se dělo v 19. století, rozpadlo třeba Rakousko-Uhersko, a teď je tu EU a podobně, takže je těžko odhadovat. A nejsem politolog a radši se ani nebudu snažit. :-) Mně šlo v příspěvku jenom o to poukázat na to celkové národní uvědomování v té době, ať už nabralo jakoukoli podobu.Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-25332957702690645252014-03-23T09:25:59.140+01:002014-03-23T09:25:59.140+01:00:D It worked when it was their own cause, I think....:D It worked when it was their own cause, I think... Reform movement and stuff, those were women, too.<br />Thank you. I'm still finding little mistakes in this post (like, I forgot to finish the details for the first three sources before posting), so changes to the research may happen, but nothing substantial.Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-60457872856362653402014-03-23T09:21:02.956+01:002014-03-23T09:21:02.956+01:00Hani, prokousala jsem se až na konec tvého obsáhlé...Hani, prokousala jsem se až na konec tvého obsáhlého a velmi pěkného příspěvku, děkuji Ti za něj. Jestli jsem správně pochopila, šiješ si oblečení podle vzoru z 19. století - držím Ti palce a moc se těším, až ho na Tobě uvidím. Jsem pravidelnou návštěvnicí Uměleckoprůmyslového muzea, miluji a obdivuji staré oděvy a je úžasné, jak se tomu věnuješ. Domnívám se, že odívání (stejně jako jídlo, tance a třeba vybavení domácností) přijímalo velmi rychle všechny změny a vlivy, které kolem prošly v tom už dosti turisticky bohatém 19. století a které se následně promítly se do národněobrozeneckých snah. A teď trochu odtržitě od módy - jak v 19. století se menší království, knížectví, vévodství, státečky a svobodná města spojovaly ve větší celek (Itálie, Německo...), pak vidím ke konci 20. a na počátku 21. století opačný trend nejen v Evropě. Rozpad Československa, předtím Sovětského Svazu se dává do souvislosti s politickými režimy odlišnými od západní Evorpy, ale odstředivé snahy Vlámů od Valonů, Benátčanů od Itálie, Moravy od Čech, Krym... bojím se i jen rozebírat, co za tím vším může být a kam až to může vést. Moc zdravím, přeji hodně oděvně-badatelských úspěchů, zručnosti při šití a těším se na další čtení ...:-)Kočičí máma Ladahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086342645335021699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-45950260900382708062014-03-23T09:20:10.687+01:002014-03-23T09:20:10.687+01:00Wait, did you share your circle quilt? I can't...Wait, did you share your circle quilt? I can't think of it now... you've actually already made many lovely quilts. :-)<br />I would not so mind being a tortoise if it did not mean those unfinished projects are taking up so much space!<br />I'm a cotton lover, too, and like the cotton I have - I was most concerned about historical accuracy for the HSF. I need to clear that up to be able to sum it up in the end!Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-43037773495526691272014-03-23T08:01:21.176+01:002014-03-23T08:01:21.176+01:00Oh my I love the jacket, and I love the research y...Oh my I love the jacket, and I love the research you've done. It makes perfect sense too that women would roll their eyes and copy Paris rather than join the menfolk in some dippy political thing. This only ever seemed to work when a very obsessed male leader laid down the law, like Gustaf of Sweden or Louis XIV. And men do love a uniform, any excuse to not have to choose their own clothes!MrsC (Maryanne)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14440723067459232998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1569751889486479823.post-18371100356769302872014-03-23T01:59:21.558+01:002014-03-23T01:59:21.558+01:00Well Hana, I'm glad your plans are coming toge...Well Hana, I'm glad your plans are coming together and I really like this jacket. I'm sure the cotton will be fine - being a cotton lover myself, it sounds good to me. <br />There's nothing wrong with being a tortoise rather than a hare. (in fact, I actually worked on my circle quilt today - very pitiful, but I thought Lent was a good time to get back to it).Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12503930255842185609noreply@blogger.com